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Which build should Cohh use?

Glacial Cascade Inquisitor
85
9%
Glacial Cascade Inquisitor
57
6%
Glacial Cascade Inquisitor
76
8%
Glacial Cascade Inquisitor
156
17%
Glacial Cascade Inquisitor
65
7%
Glacial Cascade Inquisitor
128
14%
Glacial Cascade Inquisitor
328
37%
 
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Klaxsh
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:18 pm

[QUOTE="Crit_c, post: 51710, member: 62435"]That one looks pretty good & largely uneffected by the 3.1 update. Do you know if it can handle Shaper?[/QUOTE]
Yes, ED+con has been viable for everything for a while, it is not quite as quick on bosses as it is for clearing, but still able to killl them. It was a lot of fun for me when I tried it last league, and if I was not going spectres, and focusing on it, it would probably be the build I would use to start.
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:41 pm

So a number of the builds "updated skill trees" for 3.1 are actually still based on the 3.0 tree. Ones that can still get VP may be able to get by with the 2x life leech rate, except for the glass cannon builds.

Wanderfinder's builder claims it's still viable, and it appears so at a glance.
Flameblast Totem Inquisitor would probably be better as a Glacial Cascade Totem Inquisitor (by builder's own admition)
Ball Toss Berzerker's builder says changes prevent face tanking with this build, but with new changes he/she made, it could still work for end game (just don't flail away in one place).
Frost Blades was never viable even under 3.0. Builder claims it is as long as you keep moving and don't get hit. PoB research from others have shown that against Guardians and definitely Shaper it's a certain 1 shot death. So this glass cannon build is more like paper cannon.
GC Inquisitor is not possible at all as I've said above.
Spectral Throw is unknown. It could still work (just no face tanking) or it could be completely unviable for end-game.

This is just my opinion based on the possibility that changes won't effect them as dramatic. The reason I say GC Inquisitor can't be done at all is because of it's heavy reliance on VP and that the build can't reach VP on the skill tree anymore.
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:41 pm

[QUOTE="Crit_c, post: 51711, member: 62435"]they are necessary cause that build just simply can't be done anymore. There's no way to reach VP on the skill tree and it relied almost completely on VP's instant life leech just to stay viable. It's key piece drains life as fuel and needed VP to replenish life. It's just a dead build now.[/QUOTE]

It's not a dead build at all. You just use a different body armour i.e. no Blood Magic. Glacial Cascade Inquisitor will probably be one of the most popular starting builds and very much viable to do all content.

The main reason you needed VP before, was because of killing yourself on reflect. This is no longer an issue thanks to the reflect rework.

Disclaimer: I'm not referring to the specific build linked in the OP, just generic Glacial Cascade Inquisitor. The build can (and should, as it's pretty bad) be altered to make it viable for 3.1 and should be even stronger than before.
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:43 pm

[QUOTE="klaxsh, post: 51714, member: 12737"]Yes, ED+con has been viable for everything for a while, it is not quite as quick on bosses as it is for clearing, but still able to killl them. It was a lot of fun for me when I tried it last league, and if I was not going spectres, and focusing on it, it would probably be the build I would use to start.[/QUOTE]
I was going to suggest a Raging Spirit build I loved to use, but they nerfed the hell out of Raging Spirit. It barely worked under previous nerf, and now I'm not even going to try it. Shame cause it was so fun to play. So I think I'll try that ED Cont build.
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:53 pm

[QUOTE="Kaboom_Crazypants, post: 51716, member: 61493"]It's not a dead build at all. You just use a different body armour i.e. no Blood Magic. Glacial Cascade Inquisitor will probably be one of the most popular starting builds and very much viable to do all content.

The main reason you needed VP before, was because of killing yourself on reflect. This is no longer an issue thanks to the reflect rework.

Disclaimer: I'm not referring to the specific build linked in the OP, just generic Glacial Cascade Inquisitor. The build can (and should, as it's pretty bad) be altered to make it viable for 3.1 and should be even stronger than before.[/QUOTE]
Without BM then you have to pour points into mana pool and regen to pay for GC and supports. That means you have to rework the skill tree while also having to do something about the loss of VP, meaning putting points into life regen/pool/leech (though leech may not be good without VP). That tells me that it will overall be less of both mana and life and will make it very difficult end game. Plus it also means that Kleinnex will have to completely overhaul the skill tree.
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:03 pm

[QUOTE="Crit_c, post: 51718, member: 62435"]Without BM then you have to pour points into mana pool and regen to pay for GC and supports. That means you have to rework the skill tree while also having to do something about the loss of VP, meaning putting points into life regen/pool/leech (though leech may not be good without VP). That tells me that it will overall be less of both mana and life and will make it very difficult end game. Plus it also means that Kleinnex will have to completely overhaul the skill tree.[/QUOTE]

https://pastebin.com/nWLmUbpV

Mind Over Matter with Essence Worm and a Carcass Jack (could be anything from a good rare to a Cloak of Defiance). Herald of Ice shatters with Warlord's Mark for some extra leech

Should definitely be good enough to get Cohh started.
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:08 pm

[QUOTE="Kaboom_Crazypants, post: 51719, member: 61493"]https://pastebin.com/nWLmUbpV

Mind Over Matter with Essence Worm and a Carcass Jack (could be anything from a good rare to a Cloak of Defiance). Herald of Ice shatters with Warlord's Mark for some extra leech

Should definitely be good enough to get Cohh started.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but now the skill tree build has to be completely reworked.
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:09 pm

So JP is playing this build from Zizarin: [MEDIA=youtube]2wUmZ_gQY18[/MEDIA]
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:09 pm

[QUOTE="Crit_c, post: 51720, member: 62435"]Yes, but now the skill tree build has to be completely reworked.[/QUOTE]

Already done ;)
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:11 pm

[QUOTE="Kaboom_Crazypants, post: 51722, member: 61493"]Already done ;) [/QUOTE]
mind sharing it?
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:21 pm

[QUOTE="Crit_c, post: 51723, member: 62435"]mind sharing it?[/QUOTE]

POB: https://pastebin.com/nWLmUbpV
Tree: http://poeurl.com/bESS

Could probably use some work but I didn't want to min-max it right now with the new league starting ^^
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Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:43 am

[QUOTE="Kaboom_Crazypants, post: 51724, member: 61493"]POB: https://pastebin.com/nWLmUbpV
Tree: http://poeurl.com/bESS

Could probably use some work but I didn't want to min-max it right now with the new league starting ^^[/QUOTE]

I agree this build is better than the one on the OP for 3.1, one thing to consider is probably to spec to the consecrated ground first and then respec to the crit line after getting decent crit.

To be honest like half of the build listed need serious gearing/time investment if Cohh wants to reach Shaper as an SSF character, btw does Cohh intends to use his league starter as his Shaper killer ?

As league starter some builds listed in these following thread is much better as an SSF
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/co ... rected_at/
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/co ... rts_heres/

Just ignore the dark pact build and burning spectre summoner i guess.
Some of the builds are Shaper-capable like the Scorching Ray builds, Glacial Cascade Miner, Ancestral Warchief Totems, Essence Drain builds, SRS, and Sunder/Cleave builds
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Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:06 am

[QUOTE="demarsiano, post: 51759, member: 117220"]I agree this build is better than the one on the OP for 3.1, one thing to consider is probably to spec to the consecrated ground first and then respec to the crit line after getting decent crit.

To be honest like half of the build listed need serious gearing/time investment if Cohh wants to reach Shaper as an SSF character, btw does Cohh intends to use his league starter as his Shaper killer ?

As league starter some builds listed in these following thread is much better as an SSF
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/co ... rected_at/
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/co ... rts_heres/

Just ignore the dark pact build and burning spectre summoner i guess.
Some of the builds are Shaper-capable like the Scorching Ray builds, Glacial Cascade Miner, Ancestral Warchief Totems, Essence Drain builds, SRS, and Sunder/Cleave builds[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with starting non-crit with consecrated ground (it's actually REALLY good) and speccing into crit later on.
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:51 pm

[QUOTE="Kaboom_Crazypants, post: 51763, member: 61493"]I totally agree with starting non-crit with consecrated ground (it's actually REALLY good) and speccing into crit later on.[/QUOTE]
https://poeplanner.com/AAsAAPUACxUAAHf5 ... x7AAAAAAA=
use poe planner. POE hasn't updated the base skill tree to 3.1 & poe planner shows stats, allows you to include equipment and such, and calculates all your stats for you.
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:26 pm

[QUOTE="Kaboom_Crazypants, post: 51763, member: 61493"]I totally agree with starting non-crit with consecrated ground (it's actually REALLY good) and speccing into crit later on.[/QUOTE]
I think this might be a better passive tree for Cohh: https://poeplanner.com/AAsAAQsACxUAAIL5 ... GcewAAAAAA
I scaled back the right side of the tree a lot cause I saw some other nodes that had higher amounts of those effects. I also assumed that some things (like energy shield) aren't needed.
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