The Cohhilition

Okay guys, being kind of a noob regarding pc tech, i really wish for a help from this awesome comunity. <3
I tried to make some research myself but at the end i realize i needed some help.

I'm looking for a powerful machine not only for gaming but even to perform 3d creations with some tools.
(Tiltbrush blew my mind)
So already thanking everyone i'll post it.

My budget is: Max 2500 Euros (or near that amount)
I live in: Europe (if you did not notice the euros xD)
Operating system: None
Monitor: Need (want) a nice gaming monitor (27" ?), price included
Gaming resolution : single monitor, not less than 1920x1080
Peripherals?: i'd like a nice keyboard
Will you do overclocking?: nope

I found a really cool website like ibuypower for europe. If you would like to use it for some build here is the link:
http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/syste ... Xtreme_Pro

This is the pc to start with

Hi, are you willing to build it yourself? its super easy and there's alot of tutorials online and if you need help with anything i'll be here. What country do you live in, if you buy locally you dont need to hastle with import and high shipping fees

i agree with h3ll0j3ll0. The issue with building a computer and not being "into" computing much is you might not get as much enjoyment out of building it, also there is usually never any warranties for the whole computer. The computer you linked is good, they saved money on the graphics and ssd hard drive (both are good but not the SUPER top of the line). It looks like you will need to get a mouse/keyboard and monitor. Good luck and keep us posted

Hey Void,

My experience with PCs is I built one for myself for gaming, as well as for my wife who does animation and 3D modeling. That machine you listed would pretty much play any game currently available at max settings with no issues at all. For 3d Modeling, most programs (Like Maya) will take advantage of the hyper-thredding on the i7. You may want to bump up the ram for certain types of rendering. It really is a case by case basis depending on the programs you use. Typically the rule of thumb is the better the gaming PC is, the better it will be for 3D work.

For the monitor, there are SO MANY options out there. What you may want to decide on is what you're looking for specifically and then branching out from there. Are you looking for color reproduction to be adequate for the 3D work you'll be doing? Are you looking for a high refresh rate for the gaming? Would one suite your needs more than the other? You can easily spend a fortune on a monitor, so it may be better to pick what is most important to you and go from there.

For Keyboards, My wife and I use the corsair K95 RGB because the macro keys have been nice in certain programs.

Hopefully my ramblings helped! Let me know if I can help further.

Thanks for the feedback and the really good advices!

[USER=11587]@h3ll0j3ll0[/USER] I live in Italy and at the moment i really don't know any nearby shops that make custom PCs
To lower the shipping problems i'm trying to find an online shop that actually can get the parts i'd like.

The thing about building it myself is that i want to be 100% sure that everything is done properly. The time is an issue too: right now that i have the money and the need of such a machine, my time is running very low.

So i think that i'll leave the building part to the pros.

[USER=39876]@ticktock1231[/USER] In facts, i think i'll use the machine i posted as a base for the build i'll get at the end. I'll look into the things you pointed out.

[USER=59583]@Myopicrogue[/USER] I think i'll focus on the gaming side, right now. I'm an amateur at 3d modelling ad i just started a few days ago. So, as you said, i'll find a medium good gaming monitor, and i'll look into those kind of keyboards and mouse.

Asap i'll post the build and the site i'll be getting the pc. ^^

Thanks again everyone for the feedback and really usefull advices!

Okay, this is the build. In any case taxes of my country are nuts, so i'll have to deal with them, but shipping is really low... i think.

So what do you say?

http://www.syspack.com/configuratore.aspx?assembla=Y

Hope the link works and thanks again! ^^

P.s. What about this? (the file i uploaded) There is even the monitor and keyboard here.

P.p.s. Of course the cost is a lot higher than i expected, but i really want this to be a one time big buy...
My thinking here is that to find me in one year from here where i can be sure this pc will do everything i want and need.
Probably should not aim for such high performaces and expenses...

[SPOILER=""In range" build"]
Case InWIN GT1 BLACK GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i7 Six Core Processor i7-5820K (3.3GHz) 15MB Cache
Motherboard ASUS® X99-A: ATX, HSW-E CPU, USB 3.0, SATA 6 GB/s
Memory (RAM) 32GB KINGSTON HYPER-X FURY DDR4 2666MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card 4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 960 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - 3D Vision Ready
2nd Graphics Card NONE
3rd Graphics Card NONE
1st Hard Disk 1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE
2nd Hard Disk NONE
3rd Hard Disk NONE
4th Hard Disk NONE
M.2 SSD Drive 512GB SAMSUNG SM951 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 2150MB/R, 1550MB/W)
1st PCI-E SSD Drive NONE
2nd PCI-E SSD Drive NONE
RAID NONE
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
2nd DVD/BLU-RAY Drive NONE
Memory Card Reader NONE
Power Supply CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling Corsair H55 Hydro Cooler w/ Akasa Apache Black Ultra Quiet Fan
Thermal Paste STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Fan Controller NONE
Extra Case Fans NONE
LED Lighting NONE
Sound Card Asus Xonar DGX 5.1-Channel Gaming Audio Card
Wireless/Wired Networking 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Router/HomePlugs NONE
USB Options 2 PORT (2 x TYPE A) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
TV Card NONE
Power Cable 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System Genuine Windows 8.1 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence
DVD Recovery Media Windows 8.1 (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve
Office Software NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Monitor ASUS VG248QE 24" 3D 144Hz GAMING DISPLAY
2nd Monitor NONE
3rd Monitor NONE
4th Monitor NONE
Monitor Cables NONE
Eyefinity Adapter / GeForce 3D Vision NONE
Keyboard & Mouse Razer® Black Widow 2014 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
Mouse NONE
Game Streaming NONE
Gaming Mouse Pad NONE
Games Controller NONE
Speakers NONE
Webcam NONE
Headsets NONE
Surge Protection NONE
Cable Tidy NONE
Printer NONE
External Hard Drive NONE
Warranty 3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery 3 - 4 DAY DELIVERY TO ITALY (€42)
Build Time Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Promotional Item FREE HOS: KAIJO DIABLO BUNDLE with GTX 950 & 960 GPUs!
Pricing Information
Price (excluding IVA) €2.074,17
Price €2.489,00
Order Quantity 1
Bulk Discount €0,00
Total Order price (Ex IVA) €2.074,17
Total Order Price €2.489,00
P/O Number - Edit P/O Number
Payment Method
Wattage
Maximum Required Power 517W
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Probably going to make you crazy with all these info o.O

voidwalker91 - looking at the PDF that computer looks crazy cool! Three things that stood out (but are not a big deal) is your optical drive is DVD only, it doesn't seem to play blu rays (if you don't own any or don't care then you are good to go). the other thing is your WiFi, it is 802.11N, the most up to date is 802.11AC (it is quite a bit faster, but again N should be good if you already maxed out your budget, which it kind of looks like you did. The last thing is windows 8.1, it is a version back, can't say windows 10 is the greatest but figured it was worth noting. Great build hope everything goes well for you!

[QUOTE="ticktock1231, post: 28919, member: 39876"]voidwalker91 - looking at the PDF that computer looks crazy cool! Three things that stood out (but are not a big deal) is your optical drive is DVD only, it doesn't seem to play blu rays (if you don't own any or don't care then you are good to go). the other thing is your WiFi, it is 802.11N, the most up to date is 802.11AC (it is quite a bit faster, but again N should be good if you already maxed out your budget, which it kind of looks like you did. The last thing is windows 8.1, it is a version back, can't say windows 10 is the greatest but figured it was worth noting. Great build hope everything goes well for you![/QUOTE]


I wanted to add some comments in addition to ticktock1231, since I agree with what he's pointed out:

With the windows 8.1, you will be able to upgrade to windows 10 until July of next year, so if you wanted to wait to get upgrade, don't be to concerned about it. Personally, I've upgraded to windows 10 and had no issues, but I know some people have.

I also wanted to point out that you're going with a Nvidia geforce GTX 960 graphics card. I want to advise you, if there is ANY way you can upgrade here, this is where you're going to get extended life out of your graphics card. The better the card, the more games you can normally play as technology advances over the next few years. Check out this comparison of many graphics card in the following image:
http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/med ... mark-1.jpg
You'll see the GTX 960, 970, and 980 listed. I have 970 in my machine because I thought it was best value for the money, but that was just before the 960 came out. 4gb of ram on the graphics card is great regardless of which card you go with. That I feel is important to have!

Just take a peek and make sure you're happy with your options here. With the power supply you've selected you most likely wouldn't be able to grab another 960 and run it in SLI, you would have to buy a brand new card two or three years down the road, which might be an ok plan for some, and not for others.

Hopefully I helped give you some things to think about

Regardless of what you decide, your current selections will still run games good. I always just look at the long term for myself. Take care!

Saw the following in Cohh's stream. Not sure if you can build it on there but figured you might get 5% off

"Need a new computer? Check out http://www.cohh.tv/ibuy and use the code "COH5" while checking out for a 5% discount on any system purchase over $1299! "

[QUOTE="ticktock1231, post: 28902, member: 39876"]i agree with h3ll0j3ll0. The issue with building a computer and not being "into" computing much is you might not get as much enjoyment out of building it, also there is usually never any warranties for the whole computer. The computer you linked is good, they saved money on the graphics and ssd hard drive (both are good but not the SUPER top of the line). It looks like you will need to get a mouse/keyboard and monitor. Good luck and keep us posted [/QUOTE]
I can accept that time is an issue when building pc's but otherwise you see no excuse, everyone gets happy if they suceed with a project am i not right and when it comes to warrenty you get warrent on the components often longer than you get if you bought it preassembled. Here is my calculations on how long it would take to build a computer.
watching tutorials on youtube, 3hrs
building 5-7 hours, its one evening thats not much anyhow now for the pc.

i found a place if you want prebuilt:
http://www.nexths.it/v3/searchproduct.p ... 2=Computer
http://www.nexths.it/v3/searchproduct.p ... 2=Computer

tommorow i will look up what building it yourself would cost and if its worth it

h3ll0j3ll0, Well said. What I had meant was, you can save money building a computer, but for not a HUGE amount more you can just buy one. The reason someone would buy it and not build is if they didn't enjoy the hardware side of computers. To be honest I could change my oil in my car, but I don't enjoy it so I go to the shop.

voidwalker91 - Did you purchase it or are you still thinking?

Okay, thanks everyone again for the really useful advices! ^^ at the moment i'm still thinking about it.
Unfortunately Ibuypower does not work for my country.
To this point, i'll wait for the next job cash income and keep you posted when i'll do the final leap! ^^

well good, then ill have the time to convince you, hueheuheuheue