Please help I'm very new to the computers of today. I am trying to build a streaming machine.
My budget is:$1,000
I live in:Florida
Operating system: Windows 8.1
Monitor: 2x 20" 1080p HD
Gaming resolution: I'm not sure?
Peripherals: mouse, keyboard, headset, and mic.
Will you do over clocking?: Not unless needed.
Needing help gaming/streaming comp.
-
H3ll0J3ll0
- Posts: 304
- Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:40 pm
- Contact:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RrgYzy
here you go, well rounded pc with quality components and a big ssd,this gpu should handle most games at max setting/high settings(gta v is for an example is really difficult to run at max) and if you need more gpu power in the future there is enough for expansion, you can go down to 8gb of ram if you want to save those last 60 bucks but 16gb is slowly becoming the standard.
here you go, well rounded pc with quality components and a big ssd,this gpu should handle most games at max setting/high settings(gta v is for an example is really difficult to run at max) and if you need more gpu power in the future there is enough for expansion, you can go down to 8gb of ram if you want to save those last 60 bucks but 16gb is slowly becoming the standard.
-
Rynea
- Posts: 411
- Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:57 pm
- Location: Vienna, Austria
- Contact:
The term "streaming machine" can be easily misunderstood and is usually meant for a system that is dedicated solely for streaming.
What I think you want is a gaming system that can handle streaming at the same time, but that's very different from a streaming system, that is not normally used for gaming at all and just captures the gameplay from a secondary gaming rig and then streams it.
h3ll0j3ll0 posted some decent specs for a gaming system that can stream with this price category. I'm personally not a fan of Radeon cards, but that's more of a personal preference because I don't like their drivers that always seem to crash on me. An alternative would be a GTX 970.
The biggest upgrade for these above mentioned specs would likely be an i7 processor instead of an i5.
Streaming is heavily CPU intensive and while most games really don't use the CPU to it's fullest, there are some procedurally generated worlds with constant updates that drive an i5 to their limits. Additional encoding for streaming can get you into performance issues quickly. If you play games like Landmark a lot (possibly EQN as well, we will see how optimized it will be) or similar games, that rely on a lot of world and ground adaption and not on ressource nodes then you might consider focusing on a better CPU.
What I think you want is a gaming system that can handle streaming at the same time, but that's very different from a streaming system, that is not normally used for gaming at all and just captures the gameplay from a secondary gaming rig and then streams it.
h3ll0j3ll0 posted some decent specs for a gaming system that can stream with this price category. I'm personally not a fan of Radeon cards, but that's more of a personal preference because I don't like their drivers that always seem to crash on me. An alternative would be a GTX 970.
The biggest upgrade for these above mentioned specs would likely be an i7 processor instead of an i5.
Streaming is heavily CPU intensive and while most games really don't use the CPU to it's fullest, there are some procedurally generated worlds with constant updates that drive an i5 to their limits. Additional encoding for streaming can get you into performance issues quickly. If you play games like Landmark a lot (possibly EQN as well, we will see how optimized it will be) or similar games, that rely on a lot of world and ground adaption and not on ressource nodes then you might consider focusing on a better CPU.
-
Morrowing
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:27 am
- Location: Ireland
- Contact:
Yeah agreed with Rynea.
I built one with an i7 4790k and gtx 970 for around that price, and I'm in Ireland so yours will be cheaper than mine no matter where in the world you are!
4790k is nice as it can handle a good overclock if you've a decent cooler on it, but base specs are pretty awesome so you prob don't need to really.
Gtx 970 is one of the best value for performance cards out there atm, along with the 750ti, and as Rynea said the nVidia drivers perform better and use less of your resources than amd ones do. The msi gtx 970 seems to be the best performing iteration of the card as far as my extensive pre-build reading led me to believe...
Also, as a side note, system memory prices should fall steeply some time this year when retailers try to get rid of their ddr3 to make room for ddr4. Good opportunity to upgrade RAM then... in case anyone hasn't come across that.
Best of luck with the build rezin360!
I built one with an i7 4790k and gtx 970 for around that price, and I'm in Ireland so yours will be cheaper than mine no matter where in the world you are!
4790k is nice as it can handle a good overclock if you've a decent cooler on it, but base specs are pretty awesome so you prob don't need to really.
Gtx 970 is one of the best value for performance cards out there atm, along with the 750ti, and as Rynea said the nVidia drivers perform better and use less of your resources than amd ones do. The msi gtx 970 seems to be the best performing iteration of the card as far as my extensive pre-build reading led me to believe...
Also, as a side note, system memory prices should fall steeply some time this year when retailers try to get rid of their ddr3 to make room for ddr4. Good opportunity to upgrade RAM then... in case anyone hasn't come across that.
Best of luck with the build rezin360!
[url=steam://friends/add/76561198030439319]
[/url]-
H3ll0J3ll0
- Posts: 304
- Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:40 pm
- Contact:
[QUOTE="Rynea, post: 25784, member: 2886"]The term "streaming machine" can be easily misunderstood and is usually meant for a system that is dedicated solely for streaming.
What I think you want is a gaming system that can handle streaming at the same time, but that's very different from a streaming system, that is not normally used for gaming at all and just captures the gameplay from a secondary gaming rig and then streams it.
h3ll0j3ll0 posted some decent specs for a gaming system that can stream with this price category. I'm personally not a fan of Radeon cards, but that's more of a personal preference because I don't like their drivers that always seem to crash on me. An alternative would be a GTX 970.
The biggest upgrade for these above mentioned specs would likely be an i7 processor instead of an i5.
Streaming is heavily CPU intensive and while most games really don't use the CPU to it's fullest, there are some procedurally generated worlds with constant updates that drive an i5 to their limits. Additional encoding for streaming can get you into performance issues quickly. If you play games like Landmark a lot (possibly EQN as well, we will see how optimized it will be) or similar games, that rely on a lot of world and ground adaption and not on ressource nodes then you might consider focusing on a better CPU.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, one note though the 970 costs is atleast 50$ more and at the time of assembly of that list the r9 290 was on sale. However i dont really know bout the driver thing, i cannot test it myself but the only problem i heard with the amd drivers was when they launched their super driver and still that was only the old cards.
[QUOTE="morrowing, post: 25797, member: 46726"]Yeah agreed with Rynea.
I built one with an i7 4790k and gtx 970 for around that price, and I'm in Ireland so yours will be cheaper than mine no matter where in the world you are!
4790k is nice as it can handle a good overclock if you've a decent cooler on it, but base specs are pretty awesome so you prob don't need to really.
Gtx 970 is one of the best value for performance cards out there atm, along with the 750ti, and as Rynea said the nVidia drivers perform better and use less of your resources than amd ones do. The msi gtx 970 seems to be the best performing iteration of the card as far as my extensive pre-build reading led me to believe...
Also, as a side note, system memory prices should fall steeply some time this year when retailers try to get rid of their ddr3 to make room for ddr4. Good opportunity to upgrade RAM then... in case anyone hasn't come across that.
Best of luck with the build rezin360![/QUOTE]
You do know that drivers dont use system resources like other programms, the programs that follow them(if you let them stay open) do. so this is a non issue if you know what you are doing and just close them and disable them from startup(or never install them in the first place
). And after a bit of googling i found both softwares has problems(amd catalyst and geforce experience)
As a "little" side note, why i mostly recommend amd,they are often great value(yes the 750ti and the 970 are really kings of their class but between them there is a huge gap) at the price of heat and powerconsumption which most people can live with. Secondly, they are losing the market,nvidia got 75% of the gpu market and if we want a nice market with with truely competetive pricing and inovation we cant have a single actor. Not even nvidia wants that since if amd(its a long way but once the spiral starts spining its hard to stop) go out of buisness they will get monopoly and will have to deal with the consequences of that.
What I think you want is a gaming system that can handle streaming at the same time, but that's very different from a streaming system, that is not normally used for gaming at all and just captures the gameplay from a secondary gaming rig and then streams it.
h3ll0j3ll0 posted some decent specs for a gaming system that can stream with this price category. I'm personally not a fan of Radeon cards, but that's more of a personal preference because I don't like their drivers that always seem to crash on me. An alternative would be a GTX 970.
The biggest upgrade for these above mentioned specs would likely be an i7 processor instead of an i5.
Streaming is heavily CPU intensive and while most games really don't use the CPU to it's fullest, there are some procedurally generated worlds with constant updates that drive an i5 to their limits. Additional encoding for streaming can get you into performance issues quickly. If you play games like Landmark a lot (possibly EQN as well, we will see how optimized it will be) or similar games, that rely on a lot of world and ground adaption and not on ressource nodes then you might consider focusing on a better CPU.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, one note though the 970 costs is atleast 50$ more and at the time of assembly of that list the r9 290 was on sale. However i dont really know bout the driver thing, i cannot test it myself but the only problem i heard with the amd drivers was when they launched their super driver and still that was only the old cards.
[QUOTE="morrowing, post: 25797, member: 46726"]Yeah agreed with Rynea.
I built one with an i7 4790k and gtx 970 for around that price, and I'm in Ireland so yours will be cheaper than mine no matter where in the world you are!
4790k is nice as it can handle a good overclock if you've a decent cooler on it, but base specs are pretty awesome so you prob don't need to really.
Gtx 970 is one of the best value for performance cards out there atm, along with the 750ti, and as Rynea said the nVidia drivers perform better and use less of your resources than amd ones do. The msi gtx 970 seems to be the best performing iteration of the card as far as my extensive pre-build reading led me to believe...
Also, as a side note, system memory prices should fall steeply some time this year when retailers try to get rid of their ddr3 to make room for ddr4. Good opportunity to upgrade RAM then... in case anyone hasn't come across that.
Best of luck with the build rezin360![/QUOTE]
You do know that drivers dont use system resources like other programms, the programs that follow them(if you let them stay open) do. so this is a non issue if you know what you are doing and just close them and disable them from startup(or never install them in the first place
). And after a bit of googling i found both softwares has problems(amd catalyst and geforce experience)As a "little" side note, why i mostly recommend amd,they are often great value(yes the 750ti and the 970 are really kings of their class but between them there is a huge gap) at the price of heat and powerconsumption which most people can live with. Secondly, they are losing the market,nvidia got 75% of the gpu market and if we want a nice market with with truely competetive pricing and inovation we cant have a single actor. Not even nvidia wants that since if amd(its a long way but once the spiral starts spining its hard to stop) go out of buisness they will get monopoly and will have to deal with the consequences of that.
-
Morrowing
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:27 am
- Location: Ireland
- Contact:
You're not wrong h3ll0j3ll0, but personally I can't justify saving money and spending it on a card that on a per buck/euro basis just doesn't stand up to the competition, noble and all though your stance is...
[url=steam://friends/add/76561198030439319][/url]-
H3ll0J3ll0
- Posts: 304
- Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:40 pm
- Contact:
It is as bad as you makes it sound, yes the 970 is a better card but its not that much better, often its like 5-10 more avarage fps, and that might be worth 50$ however what tips the scales is the excellent noise and power draw.
