Streaming PC Help

[CrookedConverse]

Hi,
I've been wanting to own a desktop computer for some time now. I'm playing on a laptop at the moment and it's fine. Does what I want but, I've started streaming on twitch and it uses up so much space when I am streaming. The laptop gets way too hot and I'm afraid it's going to hurt it.

What I'm asking is for a pc build that can stream and play games in high resolution without over heating. I'm not knowledgeable when it comes to building a pc and would like some help. If someone could make one that would work for what I'm doing that would be helpful.

I've made a couple builds online but I tend to hit $2k+ which is not what I want to spend at all. I'm looking for somewhere around $500-$1000.

Also it would be helpful if you could explain what makes the components work for what I want.



Thank you,
Crookedconverse.

[NLDre]

what about this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GjYZNG

should be good enough to play+stream on. you could change the cpu to an i7 for $150-200 more.

[H3ll0J3ll0]

Here is my first build, this is if you have a microcenter close to you(assuming you live in the us)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MJg7Q7 otherwise its 70$ more. Right now its better go the old generation(haswell) instead of the new skylake like NLDre sugested becuase the price diffrence is pretty big and the peformance gain is minimal. Im going to return tommorow with a new build which is more budget oriented. Anyhow where do you live and what games do you play. Lastly do you have all the peripherals you need

[H3ll0J3ll0]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7NkCH
here is the second cheaper build srry for the delay, to reach full potential you have to overclock(its not that hard just go to youtube and watch some tutorials). If you absolutley dont want to overclock/you want to save some money you can downgrade the cooler to a cooler master hyper 212 evo and downgrade the cpu to an amd fx 8320

[ticktock1231]

The computers people have picked out are great, and I recommend going with them, but I have a different thought for you. The thing I hear most from a lot of people is a two PC system is key for great Twitch streaming. I think you could do this. If you get an external capture card you can use your laptop to stream. That will free up the gaming computer to just play games. Since you already own the laptop it should work out great. That way you can still get a pretty good computer but if it isn't top of the line it should still work for what you need/want. Cheers!

[H3ll0J3ll0]

[QUOTE="ticktock1231, post: 30635, member: 39876"]The computers people have picked out are great, and I recommend going with them, but I have a different thought for you. The thing I hear most from a lot of people is a two PC system is key for great Twitch streaming. I think you could do this. If you get an external capture card you can use your laptop to stream. That will free up the gaming computer to just play games. Since you already own the laptop it should work out great. That way you can still get a pretty good computer but if it isn't top of the line it should still work for what you need/want. Cheers![/QUOTE]
I've never understood the benefits of a dual system config except if you go real high tech, could you please make me understand

[ticktock1231]

There are a few main features that work better on a two computer system. Let me start by saying I am not a streamer but I did try it just to see how it works. The first I found was that you could control the OBS settings while in game, this may seem small but if you are playing a lot of different games and they have different resolutions or if you need to change where your camera is, then you can without closing the game.

The second one is that it takes all the processing power away from the gaming computer. When OBS captures your screen + mic + camera it has to encode everything and then upload to Twtich. All the CPU + Memory it takes, may diminish the game play. That one is the biggest reason. If you have a pretty powerful computer, playing older games that aren't power hungry or if it just works, then you won't need another computer.

I kind of think of it as when you stream you do two different things. First is you play a game and the second is you stream. Makes sense (if you are able) to split it up.

Hope that helps. I hope someone else who streams can confirm or correct me.

[CrookedConverse]

[QUOTE="ticktock1231, post: 30635, member: 39876"]The computers people have picked out are great, and I recommend going with them, but I have a different thought for you. The thing I hear most from a lot of people is a two PC system is key for great Twitch streaming. I think you could do this. If you get an external capture card you can use your laptop to stream. That will free up the gaming computer to just play games. Since you already own the laptop it should work out great. That way you can still get a pretty good computer but if it isn't top of the line it should still work for what you need/want. Cheers![/QUOTE]


That's true. I thought about that, the only issue I would have is the actual set up. I don't know how to use the laptop for gaming and a pc for streaming. Just haven't learned how yet. I've got 2 laptops and I tried to do it with them but I couldn't find any information on how to actually do it. I know that's how Cohh does it. Gaming and Streaming pc's.

If you have a link to a video or how-to website on making the two laptop's work together that would be amazing. )

Thank you,
Crookedconverse

[CrookedConverse]

[QUOTE="ticktock1231, post: 30657, member: 39876"]There are a few main features that work better on a two computer system. Let me start by saying I am not a streamer but I did try it just to see how it works. The first I found was that you could control the OBS settings while in game, this may seem small but if you are playing a lot of different games and they have different resolutions or if you need to change where your camera is, then you can without closing the game.

The second one is that it takes all the processing power away from the gaming computer. When OBS captures your screen + mic + camera it has to encode everything and then upload to Twtich. All the CPU + Memory it takes, may diminish the game play. That one is the biggest reason. If you have a pretty powerful computer, playing older games that aren't power hungry or if it just works, then you won't need another computer.

I kind of think of it as when you stream you do two different things. First is you play a game and the second is you stream. Makes sense (if you are able) to split it up.

Hope that helps. I hope someone else who streams can confirm or correct me. [/QUOTE]

I use OBS, but I haven't found anything that allows me to change resolution or the containers while I'm in-game, however that WOULD be REALLY helpful because I do often find myself alt + tab (ing) out of game to change settings or check on chat and the games I play actually stop or pause while I'm not focused on their screen.

[CrookedConverse]

[QUOTE="h3ll0j3ll0, post: 30526, member: 11587"]Here is my first build, this is if you have a microcenter close to you(assuming you live in the us)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MJg7Q7 otherwise its 70$ more. Right now its better go the old generation(haswell) instead of the new skylake like NLDre sugested becuase the price diffrence is pretty big and the peformance gain is minimal. Im going to return tommorow with a new build which is more budget oriented. Anyhow where do you live and what games do you play. Lastly do you have all the peripherals you need[/QUOTE]

I live in the Central Time Zone in US I play League of Legeds, All of the Fall Out franchise, ESO, The Elder Scrolls Franchise, Bioshock Franchise, ect..

Everything I have on my laptop is fine for playing game in high quality; the problem is when I add streaming to the mix. CPU shoots up depending on the game I'm playing

[ticktock1231]

the way that I did it (note I am not a streamer) is I had the capture card in the middle between my game computer and the monitor. Then the OBS computer took that as an input. I was able to take the camera as a second input. I am pretty sure you can move things around in OBS while you are streaming, I didn't try. To the computer with the game, it will never know anything different. One issue may come from you not needing to output to a monitor for the laptop. Another option (i don't know if they work on twitch or if they cost) but Nvidia and AMD both have updates to their graphics drivers that allow for some sort of streaming.

[CrookedConverse]

[QUOTE="ticktock1231, post: 31049, member: 39876"]the way that I did it (note I am not a streamer) is I had the capture card in the middle between my game computer and the monitor. Then the OBS computer took that as an input. I was able to take the camera as a second input. I am pretty sure you can move things around in OBS while you are streaming, I didn't try. To the computer with the game, it will never know anything different. One issue may come from you not needing to output to a monitor for the laptop. Another option (i don't know if they work on twitch or if they cost) but Nvidia and AMD both have updates to their graphics drivers that allow for some sort of streaming.[/QUOTE]


Ill look into them. I've got an Nvidia card so maybe I can find something