Vote on changes to the Block System on /cohh

[McLunnainn]

I'm voting No Blocks, but in all honesty, I couldnt really care less if there's blocks or not, per se.
I just dont want to tune in and find myself after the end of one block, but before the next block starts up, because there's...nothing to see.

I dont know how often that happens, but there have been a few times I tune in and it's just one empty screen with nothing on.

[autis_wingedangel_celery]

those blocks out of the water or i'd fish you out instead.

What's more tidous to keep up, blocks or no blocks? Also past cohh should have no breaks. It is tidous and drives away those for the whole day cause of the same thing on repeat and just doesn't make sense apart from those in different timezones. But to be fair you could just rewatch specific streams on yt if its not some you wanna watch and throw chat up at the same time... my head hurts trying to think of other things to say because long paragraphs hurty and was never a fan of writing in school despite being a great writer while everyone else has a hand writing of a 2 year old while being in your age of 20-?? idk everyone's age it also to tidous to think about. I can't remember anything i've written is this too long, my mindseye is drawing a blank now. #NoBlocks4pohh

I'm so confused on how posting works when trying to post a message.

[BarryCarlyon]

I'm voting No Blocks, but in all honesty, I couldnt really care less if there's blocks or not, per se.
I just dont want to tune in and find myself after the end of one block, but before the next block starts up, because there's...nothing to see.

I dont know how often that happens, but there have been a few times I tune in and it's just one empty screen with nothing on.

Thats the two minute max gap between blocks. Which only happens at 00:00 08:00 16:00 ET.

Should be the "end of block" card with some cohhilition music on.

So with current block system thats three times a day

[smashy_24]

Personally I really like the current 3 blocks system. Makes it easy to keep up with a playlist without having to stay up late/get up early to follow along

[McLunnainn]

I'm voting No Blocks, but in all honesty, I couldnt really care less if there's blocks or not, per se.
I just dont want to tune in and find myself after the end of one block, but before the next block starts up, because there's...nothing to see.

I dont know how often that happens, but there have been a few times I tune in and it's just one empty screen with nothing on.

Thats the two minute max gap between blocks. Which only happens at 00:00 08:00 16:00 ET.

Should be the "end of block" card with some cohhilition music on.

So with current block system thats three times a day

You're joking? You mean to say that I've been unlucky enough to join up in the mere two minutes that the stream is on break so many times, and been impatient enough to move on too soon?

I guess that tracks, tbh. My life in a nutshell.
Alright, then - the breaks can stay!

[SilenceoftheFerret]

I pop in and out of streams (focus wise) but not have really noticed the blocks and repeating. 8 hours is a long amount of time to just sit and watch the stream and if you are in it for the chat then you can always mute the current stream and overlay a YT vid of one you have not watched yet and still get the chat fix. I personally don't want to open YT to watch past vods there and Twitch is just a optional channel to watch when someone else is either not on or what they are playing or talking about, does not interest me. So for me the no block system and the current block system I have no dependable difference on yet. I am still use to the last system that had no blocks and just progressed through.

Increasing the amount of blocks would make it a lot more noticeable of the repeating. Decreasing the blocks would shorten the chance for staying somewhat up to speed on the current state of Vids playing. Either option would change how often the Next voting would take place. Increasing blocks would make whatever currently voted on last a lot longer until the end of the episodes. So since there could be more with the blocks in place then could it start including shorter run episodes than the 20 minimum? It could be a pull for ones to vote for having the blocks in the first place vs no blocks. Even help decide the amount of blocks per 24hrs.

[MBNaki]

I can't say how much I LOVE the blocks.
Prior to this I was constantly missing content ( I'm gone for work 7a - 6p every day) so I'm usually only able to catch the late evening stream. Now I can watch most of a playthrough on the 3rd block and enjoy the game play I missed on the original play through.

[karbak]

4 six hour blocks would be the best

[GhostStalker_88]

I don't envy you all having to figure out what will work best and applaud constantly trying new approaches. I've had this on my brain for a bit and tried to see if I could find a satisfying approach for balancing the various mindsets but I didn't come up with anything effective. I have since sorted out my own feelings on it so hopefully this will be somewhat helpful in some way.

I have been mostly in the mindset of a "leave on and forget" style of viewer. I'll be very active when I'm first waking up and eating breakfast and then just leave on to chat here and there, enjoy the variety, and not worry about it generally. The first system was great for that as you would enjoy live Cohh and then continue off where you were on the reruns.

Going 24 hours and especially with the block system of reruns multiple times per day really didn't work for me at all in that regard. Hearing the same thing over and over got annoying. It extended any vote to triple the length which broke the habit of leaving it up as over a week went by the first time I didn't want to watch something. If you do get invested you have to accept you'll just miss or have to rewatch a block again should you go and watch live Cohh. A lot of small little things that just didn't work for me.

If it were just that simple I likely wouldn't have said much or thought about it for too long. The problem was I could see and even take the approach of enjoying it differently as it does give a lot of things that do work for people. If you aren't enjoying a game Cohh is playing, there's still a place to chill at which you are likely to enjoy instead. The fact that it repeats means you can follow a playthrough at some time of the day whereas before it wasn't possible. This also made the voting feel more meaningful again. Etc.

The more I thought about it the more it felt like there should be a way of mitigating the issues for most people but it's really seeming like the opposite. My own idea for blocks was to have a different vote for each block and thereby allow variety of content and allow consistency of investment for those who do watch it each day. But that is also going to have many of the same issues but still feel better to my approach to viewing content.

So in the end, where have I actually landed? Well actually, I want to stop watching Cohh. Not what I expected but I have come to realize I am starting to feel burned out on Cohh content. I can't say whether I've been thinking too much on this, made it an unhealthy habit and suddenly feeling ejected from things changing, or whether the /Cohh channel actually just made it too easy to watch too much Cohh but that's actually where I feel like I have landed. My hyperfocusing on this issue might be me trying to fix that actual feeling rather than actually understanding the problem.

I wanted to help give good feedback but I think all I did was end up chasing my own tail here but that's what I've got and where I'm at. I hope any of that was helpful but I honestly doubt it was. I can say that I hope wherever it ends up landing makes it clear who it is for and achieves that well. All the best figuring out how to achieve that. Cheers. <3


P.S. One other issue I think might be important to mention, Voting feels too controlled by the first few who get in at the start. Might be nice to do a pass on that system eventually.

[shambles005]

I like the block system but I am in Australia so my time zone doesn't really line up with any other major zone, and so I always start halfway through blocks. Not sure what a fix would be or if I should just suck it up. If I watch it's mostly for the community vibe, but it's confusing when I watch the end of a block, take a break, and then k come back and am earlier in a playthrough than when I left.
Sometimes it was more preferable when there were no blocks and I could just figure out what I missed instead of jumping around the timeline.

[Griddlebits]

When Cohh isn't live it's nice having people to chat with, but I still like to focus on the gameplay and blocks make that a lot easier. Before, when a playthrough would just roll straight through it made everything feel so hectic and I felt like I couldn't keep up and was missing a lot. Now the channel has a much cozier vibe so the block system gets my vote.

[mddskllz08]

I feel like the point of the 24 hr channel was to give people a place to hangout, pop in and out while the world/chat keeps moving. The content there is great background noise or gives people fun things to discuss or laugh about but it isn't a requirement, just like the offline chat on the original channel. Of course, having old play-throughs on makes it much more lively than just a no VOD offline chat. All that being said, if folks want to actually follow through a full game they can get it from youtube and do it on a schedule that works for them. Having the alt channel repeat blocks especially when you have the channel on just for background noise or to hangout with chat, can get a bit repetitive. Just my thoughts.

I appreciate all the work put in for making a system like this work, and a place to give feedback. Thank You Barry, Cohh, and Mods.

[mehchaos]

I like it better when the play through went straight into the next episodes watching reruns of reruns is kinda crazy lol.

[TheGameOrDieShow]

Just putting my 2 cents in.

No blocks. A 24/7 stream that you pop in like old TV used to be. If you want to continue where you left off just go to the YouTube playlist for that game. It's not hard.

The Cohh channel works great as a pop in and check out what's on instead of knowing that you're just gonna see the same block of stuff throughout the day.

[Valxa__]

Hey, i liked both system tbf, I dont mind much, but speaking from an EU-timezone perspective, I noticed that often we get to see 2-3x the same block beginnings, so I'd also suggest, that IFF we keep the blocks (as Barry said) we should adjust hours and blockamount.

[ebaboy]

I liked it more when there was no blocks at all.

[MasterLeo29]

All things considered, the block system seems better than no blocks. However, I think it made more sense when only one of the channels was on at any given time.
Perhaps a mix of the two ideas ?

[BarryCarlyon]

P.S. One other issue I think might be important to mention, Voting feels too controlled by the first few who get in at the start. Might be nice to do a pass on that system eventually.

How so?

The more I thought about it the more it felt like there should be a way of mitigating the issues for most people but it's really seeming like the opposite. My own idea for blocks was to have a different vote for each block and thereby allow variety of content and allow consistency of investment for those who do watch it each day. But that is also going to have many of the same issues but still feel better to my approach to viewing content.

This is the one thing we reuled out long ago, since theres too many other issues.

Like if theres 3 blocks each with their own vote, do you stop a game in block (a) being available to block (c), if you don't the block a/b might be showing the same game as different points of the playthru, which is then more confusing to people.

Increasing the amount of blocks would make it a lot more noticeable of the repeating. Decreasing the blocks would shorten the chance for staying somewhat up to speed on the current state of Vids playing. Either option would change how often the Next voting would take place. Increasing blocks would make whatever currently voted on last a lot longer until the end of the episodes. So since there could be more with the blocks in place then could it start including shorter run episodes than the 20 minimum? It could be a pull for ones to vote for having the blocks in the first place vs no blocks. Even help decide the amount of blocks per 24hrs.

Block length isn't a factor on the voting limitations, 20 episodes, exactly can mean the run time on the whole thing is just 10 hours, so a block and a bit, which is a bit tight on "meaningful time" to vote for the next game. I don't have any plans to change the episode minimum

All things considered, the block system seems better than no blocks. However, I think it made more sense when only one of the channels was on at any given time.
Perhaps a mix of the two ideas ?

What do you propose?

[littlereddragon]

Hi
It would be great if the blocks could be timed so one starts right after Cohh usually logs off for lunch. that way it'll be a smooth handover and we can enjoy a nice big coherent block. especially for us Europeans who rarely catch the evening stream.
Love the block system by the way.

[BarryCarlyon]

It would be great if the blocks could be timed so one starts right after Cohh usually logs off for lunch. that way it'll be a smooth handover and we can enjoy a nice big coherent block.

There is no common cohh lunch time. And sometimes theres no lunch at all. And of course we could take merely 30 minutes for lunch of be taking the rest of the day off (like game dev meeting day)

I mean half the time he's early to start the morning stream at 8am cohhST toooooooo.