Vote on changes to the Block System on /cohh

[BlueKronos]

I'm voting No Blocks, but in all honesty, I couldnt really care less if there's blocks or not, per se.
I just dont want to tune in and find myself after the end of one block, but before the next block starts up, because there's...nothing to see.

I dont know how often that happens, but there have been a few times I tune in and it's just one empty screen with nothing on.

Thats the two minute max gap between blocks. Which only happens at 00:00 08:00 16:00 ET.

Should be the "end of block" card with some cohhilition music on.

So with current block system thats three times a day

You're joking? You mean to say that I've been unlucky enough to join up in the mere two minutes that the stream is on break so many times, and been impatient enough to move on too soon?

I guess that tracks, tbh. My life in a nutshell.
Alright, then - the breaks can stay!

Could also be the Twitch bug issue where, the video doesn't load immediately for a channel. I've run into this a bunch of times myself, where I just get a black screen when opening Twitch to a channel I use often (like Cohh 24/7). If you run into a black screen rather then the 'end of block' splash screen, try reloading the page. Sometimes it takes me 2-3 reloads to get the page and chat working normally which I just chalk up to Twitch not working well with the cached info they save into my browser.

[XmomsdeadX]

i like the block setup you guys started. i work 10-11 hours a day and now i get to enjoy the play throughs. granted i can always watch them on youtube, but sometimes that messes up and i loose my place.

keep up the good work boys.

worm regards,
XmomsdeadX

[BerserkKirk]

No a fan of the current block system at all.
Reasons being:
1. Watching the same video 2 to 3 times in the same day.
2. Cutting videos off mid playthrough to go to the next block.
3. Continuation on 2 and then going back to the previous game/ playthrough
4. Makes the playthroughs last way too long. Example: playlist that were 50 videos, before block system would take 4 days, block system takes 7 days.
If there needs to be a block system maybe make it 2 blocks. 8am to 8pm and 8pm to 8am.
But again this is just my opinion. Still love the channel, the community and most of all Cohh.

[walrus_gumboot_]

As someone living on the east coast who only listens to the cohh channel in the background at work, the current block system is perfect for me, as I really am only tuned in during work hours (roughly 8 to 4 est). I like the feeling that the playthroughs aren't flying by super-fast like they were before using blocks. In my opinion 4 blocks is too much but 2 or 3 would both work well

[Norwegian_Imposter]

For me, I like the blocks, the only thing I dont like is the fact its still live when cohh is live, it feels exploititive and I have legit been in cohh channel and didnt notice he was actually live. It is confusing.

[Exan_Bloodmoon]

As someone who is WFH and has Cohh running in the background most of the day whenever the main channel isn't live, I enjoy no blocks.

Depending on the game on main _in theory_ you only watch block 3, block 1 you are asleep and block 2 cohh is live (or lunch)?

Just wondering what your average watch time is, in order to not miss any of the rerun in progress? Or is not missing any of the rerun not a factor?

I would say missing part of the rerun is not a factor, if it was a playthrough I am really focused on and worried about missing content I would switch to the YouTube playlist. I would prefer not to be caught between blocks and have something repeat that I have already seen that day, but I know I am probably not the average viewer. My hours are pretty flexible, I am EST if that helps.

My two cents on the subject, is almost exactly this. I would honestly say that Block or No Block doesn't matter, as in reality, Twitch is not the best place to be watching full playthroughs, as neither Main nor 24H channels pause for ads. I would make the argument that if people are going to watch a full playthrough, it's going to be on YouTube, as when an ad plays YT auto pauses the video for the ad. For those with Premium, there are no ads at all. Not saying that either channel should pause for ads, but it is a system that I like.

However, one thing that I do see a lot of people stopping by the 24H channel for, is the chatter. I can pop into the 24H channel at any time, regardless of what's going on, watch for a while, and then chat, "Yo, I just tuned in, what's going on?" and suddenly there's a whole conversation that spawned. Talking about the game, talking about other games, etc.. No, I don't pop in often, but the streams exist always on a loaded browser tab that exists for when I need a break from whatever else I'm doing.

Also, the block thing I find... Not quite annoying. I don't have a word for what I'm looking for, but as I'm at my computer all the time (unfortunately unemployed ), I am a little bothered when I decide to look up, and I'm watching the same bit that I did, what feels like a few minutes ago (Yes, I absolutely lose HOURS playing games, and stuff). I did like the pre-block system, where I could look at the stream every few days and it was a new game. Gave me information on what has been played, and then I could more easily go search for the full run.

Again, just my two cents. Long winded... Sorry.

[Naqeth]

I would say blocks, but with an adjustment. Instead of replaying the same content, have a different game for each block. In conjunction with this, have the rerun vote require the user to choose one block for their votes to go toward. This would require logging in to track I imagine, but as long as the user can't choose a new block until the one they just voted for ends it helps to ensure the game voted on for each block is chosen by the people most likely to watch that block, since the audience can have different overall leanings depending on the time of day and who's in chat watching.

[NofaceTheCrueI]

For me it's "No blocks".

I'm working from 8am to 5 pm so i am watching the end of one block. Then blocks are switching and i am watching the beginning of the block which happend to be very annoying because i already know the end of the block. And especially on weekends i most of the time watch the same block 2 times a day. Not a fan of that to be honest.
Even with 2 blocks i would have to watch the end and later on the beginning of the same block. Still not a fan of that.
No blocks is the best version in my opinion because you can always switch to youtube to watch the missing parts or even the full playthrough if you want. If not then not, just go on enjoy the next game. There is no switching blocks within a running playlist or even in the middle of a video (that is soooo annoying, sorry).
One more really big factor for me is games you don't like wont persist over a whole week or even more. If i just think of Terraria with like ~150 (?) episodes and moreover several playthroughs back to back. Damn that thing will last an eternity with any block system. That would get me turning off the 24h-channel completely for such games.
This was just an example, i know there are many people liking Terraria but still enough that don't. Let's just say it is replacable for every user with their least favorite game.
With no blocks i even stuck to the 24h-channel playing my least favorite game, with blocks i wont do that at all.

That's my experience/opinion so far. I still love the channels (live + 24h) don't get me wrong but the 24h lost much of its appeal to me since the blocks were introduced.

Greetings from Germany

[Naqeth]

I should clarify my earlier remarks, as in retrospect, it would probably be more accurate to say my support for blocks is conditional. If voting for the next rerun can be setup in such a way that each block caters the the majority of voters that watch during that block, then yes blocks. If they're kept the way they are now and the only choice is the number of blocks, then no blocks.

[GhostStalker_88]

P.S. One other issue I think might be important to mention, Voting feels too controlled by the first few who get in at the start. Might be nice to do a pass on that system eventually.

How so?

I have just noticed that an initial list is set up with the first few votes and then as the list matures over a playthrough you can't really tell what people are voting on if it's not already on the list. It can feel like you're throwing your vote into the ether sometimes or you simple get to the point where "it can't possibly catch up". I know you can vote multiple times so I don't really worry about it but many people still don't realize this about the voting system. It feels like you are given a set of options and have to pick which one to elevate without there being much chance of giving other choices a chance to gain traction if it's not early. I know this isn't always the case and there have been real out of the blue and last minute voting shifts but I wonder if having something which tracks recent votes as suggestions when voting would help this. Such as if there were the last 10 games voted on tracked near the voting box?

Also, sometimes it feels hard to remember those rarer gems playthroughs that happened years ago so it feels like you only get a list of the biggest and most well known titles most of the time. That might be a separate issue but I think seeing what other people are voting on would allow more of those playthroughs a chance as people go "oh yeah, that one! That was neat and I missed it!" as currently, unless you know what you want, there isn't a lot of change to be surprised by the huge library of playthroughs that Cohh has out there.

Other things I was thinking about was the list of what has already been shown is getting really hard to parse and look though without something to filter through or search the options. Additionally, I have been curious at how long term series that get a lot of votes over time but not necessarily enough to get into the top voting slots could benefit from those dedicated votes over the long term. I wouldn't suggest weighting such votes or anything but maybe just having a suggestions section based on this or prepopulating the list of games which have the most lifetime votes.

And since I'm giving a veritable wishlist here, when you vote for something, it would be nice to be able to see information on variations that have been seen or are currently voted on when you search for them. Right now, unless you look in the list or match up the name to the right series, it's easy to mistake which version of a run you're voting for or not notice which game has already been watched recently. That's a QoL luxury though so don't take that one too seriously.

The more I thought about it the more it felt like there should be a way of mitigating the issues for most people but it's really seeming like the opposite. My own idea for blocks was to have a different vote for each block and thereby allow variety of content and allow consistency of investment for those who do watch it each day. But that is also going to have many of the same issues but still feel better to my approach to viewing content.

This is the one thing we reuled out long ago, since theres too many other issues.

Like if theres 3 blocks each with their own vote, do you stop a game in block (a) being available to block (c), if you don't the block a/b might be showing the same game as different points of the playthru, which is then more confusing to people.

I hadn't even considered that but came to a similar conclusion. Cheers for the explanation.